Is SEO Content Just an Echo Chamber?

Posted by on Jan 24, 2013 in SEO | 14 Comments

The more I use Twitter, the less I’ve found I’ve been getting out of it. I follow a lot of people in SEO, Social Media and Content Strategy, but I’d say the most prolific content creators out of these are probably those in SEO. Perhaps I’m in my own filter bubble, but largely I find myself clicking SEO content through Twitter.

However, over possibly the last twelve months (but with some exceptions), I’ve usually got a sense of deja-vu when clicking through. I read a little, and then think it’s something I’ve pretty much read before, so I usually bounce. Perhaps there is too much content around and it’s getting recycled, I thought to myself, but then I was led to another idea in a meeting: SEO content is an echo chamber. It’s introspective, and I believe that most of the content produced is to please industry peers, rather than potential clients. In my view, that’s often a wasted effort.

SEO Echo Chamber

The Conference Schedule

Last year I was fortunate to speak at eight events. This isn’t the most hectic of schedules by any means, but it was enough to at least get my name out there to some degree. What I’m happiest about is the diversity of events that I spoke at, and that I didn’t solely focus on SEO.

However, I became really aware of a growing pain with SEO conferencing towards the end of last year, during one particular panel which felt too familiar. This wasn’t the fault of the panel, it was a problem that I’d simply gone to too many SEO events and was hearing the same stuff:

  • How Google thinks – normally played as an evil empire vs. the good crusade of SEO, a sentiment I find a little churlish and very paradoxical.
  • How to build yet more links – this is surely the most over produced content subject in the history of Internet marketing.
  • How SEO needs to adapt / how SEO is like something else – it would be better just to insert someone from a completely different industry into the conference to give an alternative perspective.
  • Rel=”author” – I’ve spoken on this (when it was kinda new), but I don’t think there’s much more to say beyond a six minute presentation. It’s really not that big a deal!

Fortunately, most conference delegates go to a maximum of one or two events a year – and certainly not eight. But problematically, if you do go to more, you’ll see the same speakers, and very similar content. The diversity on the speaker circuit is really quite limited. Take Distilled’s Search Love, for instance: it was probably my favourite conference – great talks, great networking, and great atmosphere. But the speaker list never really changes. Will Critchlow, Rand Fishkin and Will Reynolds are always on it (as they are for Linklove), most of the other speakers you can probably catch elsewhere (or you’ve been reading their content on SeoMoz). I went twice, and both conferences were excellent. But would I go again with such a similar lineup? Nope – I need a fresh perspective.

Rand Fiskin

This featured in my 2011 Search Love review, One Takeaway per Speaker. Respect to all those who speak, it is often inspirational, and I’ve learnt a lot from them. But if I saw Rand speak again this year, would I hear similar things?

Agencies at Conferences

What I find most surprising about SEO conferences is the large amount of agency staff who go to listen to other agencies talk. At quite a few I would assume that SEO agency staff actually outweighs inhouse staff by a considerable margin, because I meet so few inhouse staff in the bar. So one of the strange things about this is you’re preaching to the choir. It’s nice to give back to a community who’s given you an opportunity, sure, but it’s not good for business. As a business owner, I don’t want to speak at SEO events nearly as much.

Of course, conferences are a networking joy, and I don’t think I like anything more than the boozing post conference. I’ve gained business contacts afterwards of course – indeed I would probably say this part is the most valuable!

SEO Blogging and Infographics

The amount of blog content that comes out of small agencies (under 50 staff) is quite astounding really. It certainly outweighs content that comes out of larger agencies, which is published at quite a low rate. But unfortunately, what I normally see is very similar me-too stuff which is pretty much SeoMoz material and usually (again) preaching to the choir.

I really don’t understand introspective SEO infographics such as SEO Top Trumps. There’s no new information in this at all – it’s basically going on Twitter and following those who would be recommended by Twitter anyway. Credit to the designer, but I don’t get it – it’s the same old people. Granted, it’s created to get shared and linked to – but so what? What if the people sharing are just SEO Managers having a good old chuckle?

What’s more, with fairly regular aplomb, we’ll get an expert panel to give their views on a blog. Problem is they’re the same experts every time. It’s like there’s just a little book of people who blog and do the conference circuit who you should ask every time, when actually there are quite a lot of people who aren’t even on Twitter that hold very high authority. Wouldn’t it be good to gauge their opinion?

SEO Thought Leaders

Aren’t the Big Guys Missing?

What I find fascinating is that it’s the smaller agencies that are practicing what they preach, and then doing inbound marketing to the converted. But where are the bigger agencies? Where are:

With LBI and iCrossing, it’s actually pretty difficult to find their blogs – Greenlight’s isn’t immediately obvious, and it’s only updated once a month. This isn’t the inbound that we’re looking for!

It’s also not that easy to find all of their staff on Twitter. Director of SEO at Greenlight? Not on Twitter – he’s called Adam Bunn. It doesn’t really matter if you haven’t heard of him – he’s great at his job and knows an incredible amount about the space. He also taught me everything I know about Excel.

Big SEO companies don’t blog regularly about SEO because they don’t believe in giving their business practices away. And they don’t speak that much at conferences because they’re busy elsewhere – talking in the verticals that really drive commerce – travel, finance and fashion – to name a few. Here, they’re not preaching to a choir; they’re focused on getting leads.

They also focus much more energy on specific vertical e-books. iCrossing’s Fashion Bloggers is one excellent example of this.

Is this Blog An Echo Chamber?

Of course, as I wrote this post I thought that really it’s a kind of echo chamber. For most of the time I’ve been blogging, I’ve been preaching to the choir. I’m not sure of any inhouse staff reading my work – I seldom meet them and I know who tweets my work the most. However, on the flip side, because I’m a one man band, I could be employed by agencies, so it could get me leads; but there’s another reason why I blog.

I blog because I find it cathartic. It helps me formulate ideas and structure argument. It helps me test out concepts and work on different content types. For instance, I’m able to test theories around fence sitting and controversy while assessing which format works best. It’s great for a deeper understanding of what I do. Which was the more effective post?

(Share counts are at 0 since they’ve been redirected from jamescarson.co.uk).

I’m not going to be blogging any practical stuff on here anymore, largely because the share rates and readership is so low that it’s pretty pointless, but also because I feel concerned about the level of white noise and what really gets picked up. I spent hours on this – it got nowhere; time to change tack. I guest blog for a couple of large sites – they can have the practical stuff. For the most part, this will continue to be my opinion base, and I’ll aim to do at least two posts a week. I understand that this might mean I get perceived as a moaning, ranting (but sometimes humorous) commentator, but it seems this is what people like best. I hope it gives digital marketers (particularly in SEO) a much needed alternative perspective.

  • http://twitter.com/Da11ey Simon Dalley

    Completely agree – SEOs spend so much time making noise about SEO and reading about SEO I wonder what the industry is actually doing. In fact sometimes I myself question if there is actually much substance to the art of SEO.

  • http://twitter.com/matt_seo Matthew Taylor

    Hi James,

    This post is spot on! A lot of the stuff you read and hear just goes round and round, I am trying to stay away from conferences and have lost interest in a lot of SEO blogs as it is similar stuff from the same people. I have seen some articles recently which are pretty much copy and pasted from something a few months earlier.

    The SEO community has always somewhat puzzled me, people seem to want to be well known by their peers and largely ignore their target clients (although it does occasionally bring new business). The odd thing is that none of us would suggest the tactic to a client so why do we do it ourselves? Should a fashion retailer spend all their time writing posts so they are better known by other fashion retailers?

    If people are going to blog targeting others in the industry I would much prefer they came up with something new or offered an opinion (even an unpopular one). It’s almost as if we forget the quality over quantity arguments we blog about!

  • http://twitter.com/krystianszastok Krystian Szastok

    I agree and had the same thoughts on that infographic. The caricatures were the only content I skimmed through. Half the articles with ‘ultimate’, ‘best’ etc headlines are actually not worth it.
    For me it comes down to brands (personas) now, if someone I consider authoritative shares something I’ll read it usually. I don’t remember the last time I Googled for any SEO resources as the amount of crap ranking makes finding anything useful a mission.

  • Thomas Barker

    Hi James,

    Agree with a lot of this. I’ve even stopped reading most of the content being shared on my Twitter feed (apart from this ironically). @robwatts actually pointed me at @strawberryapp when I complained about reading the same stuff over and over again. Well worth a look.

    Also as a former Greenlighter similar to yourself I have to agree with what you said about Adam – even if he does use a freakish keyboard! Another thing I noticed was they only try to blog about things based on their own research. It helps show that they are thought leaders in the industry (that conduct their own research) rather than waiting for Rand etc to lead the way.

    Tom

    p.s. I’m in-house now so dont worry. Some of us do venture over here

  • http://www.sagerock.com/blog SageRock

    This is all true.

    But I will say that it probably isn’t just this industry that does this.

    My wife is a writer. She’s always amazed at what writers blog about: “Writing.” That’s not what their audience is interested in normally. They probably would like to hear more stories on the topic that the writer normally writes on.

    This is difficult. A practitioner wants to discuss what they are good at. But it then all becomes inside baseball.

    I’m guilty of it. But I’m also trying to write and video more about web marketing from my clients’ perspective.

    This is a good reminder for us all to ask, “Why are we doing this, anyway?”

  • paddymoogan

    Hi James,

    Mentioned this privately but I enjoyed the post and have had similar thoughts myself. As someone who blogs fairly regularly on SEO topics, I wanted to add my opinion into the mix.

    In the last week alone, I’ve had 5-6 enquiries for SEO consultancy which have come solely through blog posts that I’ve written. One on SEOmoz and the rest on my personal blog. The majority of these, and the majority of ones I have received over the last few months have been from in-house SEOs. There is occasionally an agency or a consultant in there looking for extra resource, but on the whole, they’re from in-house people.

    I’m confident that without blogging about SEO, sharing my thoughts and generally contributing to the community, I wouldn’t get these leads.

    Sure there are other ways to get leads, the rest that I get are probably from word of mouth referrals which is great. Also the companies you mention that don’t blog often or share their techniques obviously get enough leads to survive as a company.

    But I feel that you may have underestimated the power of blogging about SEO for getting SEO leads from in-house people.

    Just my own experience, happy to accept that it may be different for others.

    Cheers for a thought provoking post!

    Paddy

    • JamesCarson

      Hello Paddy –

      i think you’re one of the exceptions who does put out genuinely unique and great content though. You have a strong reputation through conference speaking and working at one of the most well respected search agencies.

      Of course I think contributing to the community is important for the small guy. But this post is trying to poke at the level of similarity of discourse. ie, you’re never going to be the big guy unless you change tack and go beyond what a lot people say.

      I understand that people like Rand / Rich Baxter / Chris Brogan have all had very good blogs which have aided their consultancy businesses. But just because they have, doesn’t mean they couldn’t have done it quicker by other means.

  • http://twitter.com/fergus_blueclaw Fergus Clawson

    Hi James, I agree there can be an echo chamber effect within the SEO community, one crucial point to note though is SEO is still a young art and it’s forever changing and that’s what makes it exciting. Yes there are speakers that ‘do’ the circuit and it can feel like who is back slapping who, however it’s incredibly healthy for an industry to question everything and for professionals to meet up and discuss various shit, then take it back and actually make money for their clients. The big agencies are coming out to play, LBi, MEC, Forward and Razorfish are speaking at various SEO conferences this year – back to the grass roots, Greenlight not so. Anyway hope to catch you in Leeds in April at ionSearch, we’ll echo chat over a few beers, cheers Fergus

    • JamesCarson

      Hi Fergus – thanks for your comment.

      I do agree SEO is forever changing, but it does feel like some subjects get over egged a little!

      I’ve seen the lineup for IonSearch – certainly a good mix of characters old and new in there!

  • http://www.higherclick.com/ Gael Breton

    There are the SEOs busy working on projects and the ones that blog :) . However, as Paddy said I understand this can be a decent and affordable lead gen source (gosh, some SEO keywords are over $15cpc :/)

  • Brent Nau

    James,

    1.) I agree it seems like the same core people do all of the SEO conferences. I really can’t believe that there are not more experts in our field.

    2.) That infographic was all about link bait, no real worth. It really shows you how big a circle jerk the SEO industry.

    3.) Please shoot me if I read another Facebook Social Graph search post.

  • Dale Cooper

    Good post. Honest too. Maybe the big agencies see greater value in vertical/domain knowledge and the pr networks derived from working in an industry constantly? This insight and these connections with technical chops as well is avaluable proposition to clients.

  • http://twitter.com/BarryMagennis Barry Magennis

    Nice post James.

    - I regularly check out your blog as I love the content on it.

    - SearchLove this year was my first SEO conference and to be honest I was slightly disappointed. I am hoping BrightonSEO in April will restore my faith in SEO conferences.

    - It does seem to be a bit of a closed knit SEO back scratching community.

    Hope you keep up the blogging!

    • JamesCarson

      Hi Barry – thanks for the comment and glad you like the blog.

      I actually think Search Love is probably the best conference I’ve been to – although I didn’t go this year. Brighton SEO is certainly quite broad – it’s a little different as a few of the speakers are first timers and there’s a massive crowd. After four or so SEO conferences I would suggest going to conferences that don’t involve SEO – particularly digital media planning and broadcast. It gives great perspective!